Well, it’s been a few weeks since our last episode. A couple of weeks ago Twyla, Kris and I were in Kamloops for Imagine No Religion, while Haysn was in Virginia attending Women in Secularism. As for last week I did a very early photo shoot, volunteering as an even photographer for the Calgary MS Walk and Run and was just way too tired to speak intelligibly that night. So this is our first post-INR episode and we have with us two special guests in this instalment, brothers Gus and Luke Holwerda. These indie film producers had the onerous task of following Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss all over the world, and not in a stalkish kind of way. The resulting film is called The Unbelievers (http://unbelieversmovie NULL.com/), and is now available at the time of this podcast release on iTunes, and will be available later from other distributors such as Netflix. Gus and Luke discuss with us their impression of INR and share behind-the-scenes stories with us. It was great having them on!