The Number of the Catches

[First posted to the Freethinkers Mailing List (https://groups NULL.google NULL.com/group/freethinkers-club/browse_thread/thread/25897a7c113cc09f)]

Before that wonderful rant by Greta was an insightful post by Natalie (http://freethoughtblogs NULL.com/nataliereed/2012/02/27/catches-twenty-two/):

Greta Christina made a really interesting point, though, that got my brain pieces to start doing brain stuff. She pointed out how whenever there’s a disagreement within our community, no matter how minor, people will exploit it to make up stories about “rifts” and “infighting” and “drama”, how we’re a bunch of angry little kids who endlessly squabble amongst ourselves. And then when we do agree with one another, suddenly we’re a “hive mind”, an “echo chamber”, “preaching to the choir”, a “circle jerk”, “silencing dissent”. We’re mocked and attacked for disagreeing with each other, and mocked and attacked for agreeing with one another. A catch-22, no-win, damned if you do and damned if you don’t situation. […]

I started wondering if these catch-22 set-ups are actually sort of the hallmark of discrimination, sort of the most direct and immediately recognizable way of knowing that a given group has been predetermined to be in the wrong regardless of what they do, or just generally aren’t being given a fair chance in terms of how they’re treated or understood.

I’d certainly agree, as someone who’s been called closed-minded several times over, who’s been criticized for being a relativist or too dogmatic. Give her piece a read, though, and see what you’d think.

HJ Hornbeck

A Learning Experience

[First published on the Freethinkers Mailing List (http://groups NULL.google NULL.com/group/freethinkers-club/browse_thread/thread/249d3b65eecff039).]

There I was, working up to a rant against Allain de Botton’s idea of building an atheist temple, and then he had to go spoil everything by being reasonable (http://freethoughtblogs NULL.com/tokenskeptic/2012/01/31/token-skeptic-interview-with-alain-de-botton-on-religion-for-atheists/). Jerk.

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Glass Ceilings look very pretty when Smashed

[This is a repost of something I fired off to the Freethinkers mailing list (http://groups NULL.google NULL.com/group/freethinkers-club/browse_thread/thread/1bd004d4c7be5142).]

Changes are afoot in the skeptical/atheist community.

I’m not sure when this process began. Elevatorgate (http://bigthink NULL.com/ideas/39234)?
#mencallmethings (http://tigerbeatdown NULL.com/2011/11/07/why-are-you-in-such-a-bad-mood-mencallmethings-responds/)? Both feel like tipping points with a fair bit of
momentum already behind them. Whatever the case, feminism has become a
big deal within the community.

And it’s about damn time!

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